Questions, arguments, Legislative meeting

Mark and David,

good job and report, thanks!

Now to answer to what you immediately brought back in and laid out for us.

Lets keep it very simple - let's stick with ace issues - nano and WTC-7

• So, on Jim's "you have not convinced me" , or "you have no case", our answer might ought to be:

1. we presented irrefutable scientific evidence of nanothermite, so the ball, so to speak, the initiative is your court, on you.

2. It's not enough to say "you are not convinced". Would you care to explain why not?

3. What would convince you if not a definitive scientific evidence?

4. Do you believe even that nanothermite was found in the cloud, as we presented?

5. Do you believe that implosion of WTC-7 was never explained?

6. Don't we all, after learning about nanothermite, have a duty to investigate, to learn the truth?

/Little tougher lines, but that is intentional/

That said, Hank wisely pointed out that the answer is, and will be, per default "not convinced" ... The issue is of tremendous repercussions.

It is also practically as if we would ask him to quit his job, and join our movement. .... I don't think Jim is ready for that, or the time is ready .. not yet ....... It's that chipping away, gathering of the critical mass, of info, of presence for us, for now .... as Hank mentioned

It's also time for us to stick together.

• What do we want from Jim now?

1. To initiate the investigation, where did nanothermite in the dust came from?
2. Who might possess nanothermite in The USA in the first place?

3. Who, when and how set the nanothermite inside the towers WTC-1 and 2, which imploded and pulverized into pyroclastic dust of controlled demolition?

3. Who, when and how set the explosives inside WTC-7, which imploded and disappeared into a controlled demolition.?

• What new are we bringing?

This is a trick question. Lets NEVER stray from the clear irrefutable facts.

We do bring a new compelling testimony from leading FEMA photographer, mentioning his deep doubts about the official story.., but also

1. We bring renewed insistence on absolute definitive irrefutability and reliability of nanothermite scientific evidence, insistence that you reevaluate your position!

2. We would like to ask for Senators direct opinion, meeting.

3. We'd like to ask for Senator's support, would you help with the process of nomination for Nobel Peace Prize of several personalities and on behalf of the whole 9/11 movement

/if nothing, this might have a symbolic effect/

Petr

bcc to http://groups.google.com/group/davis-911-truth

http://friendfeed.com/911Davis

http://911TruthDavis.blogspot.com

http://911UnitedWeInvestigate.blogspot.com

Nonethless, a pure existence of this meeting is a valuable success for Davis 911 Truth, and for the whole movement.

Mark, will you copy this our debate to Richard and Gregg?

I think we should ...

And, MS Office files changes tracking .. why not get everybody on Eterpad, or any other modern collaboration tool out there??.. well true, we haven't gotten the testing that far yet ..

9/11 Truth Davis, AE911Truth.org meet with Senator Feinstein Office Director Jim Molinari, San Francisco.

Today, July 21, 2009, representatives of Davis 9/11 Truth Mark Graham, Sacramento 9/11 Truth, David Kimball, and Dr Richard Gage and Gregg Roberts, one of authors of Nanothermite Report, both of http://AE911Truth.org fame, met in San Francisco with a representative of Sen Diane Feinstein office Jim Molinari.

The subject - 9/11 Truth, the investigation.

The parties exchanged views and information on the issue, appreciated each other approach.

The 9/11 Truth group handed over a copy of Harrit, Jones et al Nanothermite Report, among others.

The parties agreed to disagree, and to possibly meet on a later date again.

Petr Buben

Sac meeting, Richard Gage in Davis, project Webtools Demo, next plan

• Richard Gage in Davis ... great news! .. we need professionals, personalities like him here in Davis.

He will bring new clear ideas and will project possible directions to go, will recap his successful, unique 9/11 touring the country, Seattle to Washington DC ! ... What a knight - patriot !

Once the 9/11 truth prevails, Richard will have a ball - nationwide ! ...

• Sac monthly meeting eval.
  Fine site at http://Sac911Truth.blogspot.com , http://California911.nexo.com/Sacramento

Good stuff! Formal beginning and ending statement, great, sensitive lead and support from David. Also a richness of supporting printed materials, documents. They talk not only 9/11, but manage to keep it in reasonable dimensions. Good discipline, attention.
We Davis might clearly take hint from discussion discipline, more resonance.

I might suggest,
1.you could dig up more input, good info .. example - lady organizer/member of an official third party ...she might present some formal info block at the next meeting.

2.a keep pointing to your website, call on members to work with it ...
2.b set up a http://meetup.com/Davis911Truth membership site.

• Webtools Demo project, week 1, votes 1.
  

I will suppose members signed up to sites selected, or at least are ready, and also will communicate their progress on project site http://DavisWeb911.nexo.com

Please continue to signing up to groups and blogs, once you registered.

I have added other sites - aggregators. They are listed on the project nexo site.

Votes week 1.

Mark, pass without recommendation. failure to communicate ACTIVELY and exhaustively.

Chris, conditional pass - failure to communicate the progress, the sites joined,

Howard, Jack, conditional fail - failure to communicate status, visit project sites.

All else, Fail.

Petr,

WebTools Demo Project

bcc to project http://DavisWeb911.nexo.com, http://911DavisWeb.blogspot.com , http://911TruthDavis.blogspot.com - group blog , http://California911.nexo.com

next week,

1. we will make our project groups private, members only

2. we will gear up for video hookups testing, multi party chat, video sessions demo tests

9/11 Mission Statement Proposal, Petr Buben

Whereas Witnessing the tragic events of 9/11 2001,

Whereas contemplating the sheer monstrosity of this mass murder perpetrated on a US nation, an attack manifesting itself as a controlled demolition of two towers WTC1 and WTC2 of World Trade Center and building WTC 7 in New York and as unidentified aerial vehicle impacting The Pentagon, this an attack by yet to be identified entities,

Whereas being confronted with the stark reality of US government deception , un-cooperation and cover-up,

Henceforth,
We the People, Us the members of Davis 911 Truth Chapter, proudly reporting ourselves a California member of the national 9/11 Truth movement,
"Our mission is to gather a critical mass of public common knowledge, understanding and acceptance of the truth regarding the tragic events of 9/11, by educating and informing ourselves and others, in order to achieve new independent facts-based investigation, and finally, to witness resulting official recognition of the Truth of 9/11, so that history accounts can be officially corrected, and the war empire forces can be revealed, removed from power, brought to account, thus being defeated, for the sake of world peace and world prosperity".

We Resolve Diligently and Incessantly to :
To dedicate ourselves to:

• to pursue the independent exhaustive investigation of this tragic false event of 9/11 attacks, event that apparently was used as a justification of preventive unprovoked military attacks and colonial wars of conquest, consequences of which we will have to deal with for years to come
  
• to educate ourselves and keep educating and informing others about the true nature of this tragic event of 9/11
  
• to bring to account the entities and individuals responsible for the event, them that precipitated and participated, in a manner heinous, false, covert, treacherous, treasonous, thusly so highly injurious to the sovereign interests of The People and The Republic
  
• to bring under control of The People and The Constitution the forces, the entities and the power framework that allowed the germination and origination of the event
  
• to oppose any future, and to end any current, the unprovoked, preventative, Congress undeclared and therefore un-American, genocidal wars of aggression and subsequent colonial conquests
  
• to oppose universally illegal and morally wrong torture of prisoners and indefinite detention
  
• to investigate and fully account for two fraudulent national presidential elections, 2000 and 2004, when forces instituted to power were never lawfully elected
• to investigate bioterror anthrax attacks of Sept 18, 2001 and on
  
  
  We further do believe that the following issues are closely related to the attacks of 9/11, and We do resolve henceforth:
  
  
• to strengthen the nation, its people and its fabric by the introduction of the Universal public-private single payer national health-care system
  
• to bring under control the wildly runaway, unnecessary military budget, paring it to the measure of 30% initially, which still will allow and guarantee the position of the country as the militarily unopposed, unmatched, most reasonably defended and most powerful nation on the Earth
  
• to support to invest in and to defend un-disproportionatelly the American scientific and industrial infrastructure base and resulting industrial potential
  
• to support the just scale and manner of the distribution of wealth creation and generation, them being supremely endowed upon The People and upon America through the unending industriousness, inventiveness, diligence, beliefs, and highest humility of the un-conquerable spirit of freedom, justice, brotherhood and peace
  
• to support to carry out the dissolution of recently appearing government bureaucracies of Department of Homeland Security, and the Patriot Act
  
• to bring under control and verification the national election process, with institution of runoff national presidential election, with utilization of modern technologies
  
• to investigate a federal crime of intimidation of federal election candidate, Ross Perot, 1996 presidential elections
  
• to investigate the inside job of 7/7/5 London bombings, and to review the Madrid bombing circumstances
  
  

We The Undersigned Bellow, The Davis 911 Truth Chapter
July 4th, 2009.
Petr Buben


The public is being informed of the possibility to kindly sign this 9/11 Movement Statement in by commenting bellow, to show support to the 9/11 Movement and to the general principles and goals contained in this Statement.
Thank you.
Petr Buben

Member of Davis 9/11 Truth Petr Buben Mission Statement, and draft proposal to the group.

Whereas Witnessing the tragic events of 9/11 2001,
Whereas contemplating the sheer monstrosity of this mass murder perpetrated on a US nation, an attack manifesting itself as a controlled demolition of two towers WTC1 and WTC2 of World Trade Center and building WTC 7 in New York and as unidentified aerial vehicle impacting The Pentagon, this an attack by yet to be identified entities,
Whereas being confronted with the stark reality of US government deception , un-cooperation and cover-up,
Henceforth, We the People, Us the members of Davis 911 Truth Chapter, proudly reporting ourselves a California member of the national 9/11 Truth movement,
We Resolve Diligently and Incessantly to:

• to pursue the independent exhaustive investigation of this tragic false event of 9/11 attacks, event that apparently was used as a justification of preventive unprovoked military attacks and colonial wars of conquest, consequences of which we will have to deal with for years to come
  
• to educate ourselves and keep educating and informing others about the true nature of this tragic event of 9/11
  
• to bring to account the entities responsible for the event, entities that precipitated and participated, in a manner heinous, false, covert, treacherous, treasonous, thusly so injurious to the sovereign interests of People and The Republic
  
• to bring under control of The People and The Constitution the forces, the entities and the power framework that allowed the germination and origination of the event
  
• to oppose any future, and to end any current, the unprovoked, preventative, Congress undeclared and therefore un-American, wars of aggression and subsequent colonial conquests
  
• to oppose universally illegal and morally wrong torture of prisoners and indefinite detention
  
  
  
  We further resolve to:

• to strengthen the nation, its people and its fabric by the introduction of the Universal public-private single payer national health-care system
  
• to bring under control the wildly runaway, unnecessary military budget, paring it to the measure of 30% initially, which still will allow and guarantee the position of the country as the militarily unopposed, unmatched, most reasonably defended and most powerful nation on the Earth
  
• to support to invest in and to defend un-disproportionatelly the American scientific and industrial infrastructure base and resulting industrial potential
  
• to support the just scale and manner of the distribution of wealth creation and generation, them being supremely endowed upon The People and upon America through the unending industriousness, inventiveness, diligence, beliefs, and highest humility of the un-conquerable spirit of freedom, justice, brotherhood and peace
  
• to support to carry out the dissolution of recently appearing government bureaucracies of Department of Homeland Security, and the Patriot Act
  
• to investigate and fully account for two fraudulent national presidential elections, 2000 and 2004, when forces instituted to power were not lawfully elected
  
• to bring under control and verification the national election process, with institution of runoff national presidential election, with utilization of modern technologies
  
• to investigate a federal crime of intimidation of federal election candidate, Ross Perot, 1996 presidential elections
  
• to investigate the inside job of 7/7/5 London bombings, and to review the Madrid bombing circumstances
  
  

We The Undersigned Bellow, The Davis 911 Truth Chapter
July 4th, 2009.
….. ,…………., …………., …………. ,……………, Petr Buben